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| date | Jun 20, 2009 4:08 PM | |||||||
| subject | Guitar Lessons "Overpayment" scam. | |||||||
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Hey,
My name's Troy and I'm a Guitar Teacher in Charleston, SC after 3 years and 4 SXSWs in Austin, I came home and started teaching and soon found my Craigslist Lessons/Tutoring posting attracting a ton of "Teenager arriving from overseas for guitar lessons" scams. One of my students is a Goose Creek, SC, policeman and he said the best "punishment" one can hope befalls these bastards is that you waste their time and keep them busy with you, potentially preventing a less-savvy victim from getting taken. These pieces of shit target guitar/piano/violin lessons as well as other Teaching/Tutoring posters on Craigslist, such as Praxis Math, Spanish/German/French teachers and GED-preparation tutors. It's the same formula you've experienced. There is usually a "Nanny" or "Au pair" involved, and it is to "her" that you should wire the difference. Officer Davis, "Trey" to his off-duty circle of friends, suggests pretending to be fooled, receiving the checks and then running them silly checking in at Western U or MoneyGram for "The Nanny's Fee". The term is "Scam Baiting" and is often applied to the classic "419" scam, but can be used to frustrate and dissapoint any and all manner of 'net scum. I have a 41-and-counting "Trophy case" of fake checks. I always email them the last time like this, so they'll keep reading a bit. Hey sorry for all the trouble. I know Mrs. Fluffybottom is waiting on the Money Transfer Control Number so she and little Horatio can fly from Chicago to Charleston for guitar lessons, but the Western Union was closed so I went to MoneyGram, not, because I've known from the time you first emailed me in your broken,3rd-world monkey English that this was a scam and felt it would be fun to waste your time, you cocksucking piece of shit It's been a pleasure wasting your time and making you do tricks for me. Here's my latest reverse-victim in progress. His check came on a Friday for $2,500 so I've got the whole weekend to taunt him. I like to make them research Guitar/Keyboard-equipment by asking them questions about "their kid's instrument/past lessons", so that they have to try to be more convincing. Like I said, they deserve all the harrassment, abuse and hoop-jumping I can concoct because the non-violent nature of their scams makes them a low-priority to police agencies. Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:04:55 -0700 |
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from | Jay EuDaly <jay.eudaly@gmail.com> | ||
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| date | Jun 21, 2009 10:32 AM | |||
| subject | Re: Guitar Lessons "Overpayment" scam | |||
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Hi Troy,
We obviously have the same approach, although I don't have the numbers you do, probably because I don't list on Craigslist. The scammers just find my website (MasterGuitar.com). I string them along 'till I get the check, then tell them they can stick it where the sun don't shine and move along. I appreciate what you're doing, but it's beyond what I have time for. I feel like things reach a point where I'm wasting MY time as well as theirs. An unlooked for bonus has happened because of the scam pages though. Besides helping other teachers avoid this type of scam, it has served as a touching point between myself and teachers from all over. I've gotten emails from teachers who have found my scam pages from all over the US, the UK, Austrailia and Europe. It's really cool. It's also turned into kind of a guerrilla marketing strategy for my books as well. I'm wondering if I could say something about your approach - maybe copy-and-paste some selected quotes from your email and post it on the Scam section of MasterGuitar - would you be ok with that? I would credit you and post a link to you &/or your website. Whaddaya think? Jay
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troy evitt <zarathustra10@hotmail.com> | ||
| to | jay.eudaly@gmail.com | |||
| date | Jun 21, 2009 12:25 PM | |||
| subject | RE: Guitar Lessons "Overpayment" scam | |||
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Oh, feel free to copy any of that you wish. The worst side-effect for me was almost blowing off a legit family-with-nanny situation. The nanny was this nice Hispanic lady with a kid of her own and the household was backing his education as well as the sons and I was paid well for 2x week piano lessons. But they were unaware of the scams and had no idea how hard a sell it was to get me to go for more than once a week and to deal with a nanny. |